Pope Francis speaks to French President Emmanuel Macron by phone, discussing his recent visit to Iraq and the challenges of a post-Covid world.
By Vatican News staff writer
Pope Francis and Franceâs President Emmanuel Macron spoke by phone on Sunday, according to a press release from the Presidentâs Office at ĂlysĂ©e Palace.
The call, which was requested by the Pope, marks the fifth time the two world leaders have spoken since Macronâs election in 2017.
Their conversation reportedly lasted around 40 minutes, and came after President Macron sent the Pope a message on the occasion of the 8th anniversary of his election to the papacy.
The last time they spoke was October 30th of last year, after the attacks on the Cathedral of Nice, which killed 3 people.
Iraq visit âa turning pointâ
The ĂlysĂ©e press office said that during their Sunday conversation the two spoke at length about Pope Francisâ recent Apostolic Journey to Iraq.
Macron said the visit marked âa true turning pointâ for the Middle Eastern region.
The pair also dwelt on their âthoughts and concernsâ about several crises affecting various parts of the globe.
These included âthe expansion of jihadism in Africaâboth in the Sahel region and the continentâs east coastâ, as well as the critical situation in Lebanon.
Post-pandemic world
According to the ĂlysĂ©e press statement, President Macron also spoke to the Pope about the âchallenges of a post-Covid worldâ.
Pope Francis published a book with British journalist Austen Ivereigh on the subject, in which he said humanity has been given the opportunity to build a better world after the pandemic.
Soon after the start of the pandemic, the Pope set up a special Vatican Covid-19 Commission, to help humanity think about the challenges it faces moving forward.


